LOL if you were a mature adult you'd understand that Growing up is a biological function that one has no control over but maturing is something that I have done and you have failed to do. GTFOI young man, you are not beyond hope but the longer you deny the truth the further behind you will fall! 2001 April 29, john q public, “Re: Question for the Liberals”, in alt.impeach.bush (Usenet):